Ufo, led indoor lighting and the future
collaboration with Fabio Casu
What's behind the acronym LED?
These light emitting diodes, light emitting diodes or literally.
Wikipedia informs us, already aware of user on: "LEDs are a special type of diode formed by a thin layer of semiconductor material. When subjected to a direct voltage to reduce the potential barrier of the junction, electrons in the semiconductor conduction band recombine with the shortcomings of the valence band releasing enough energy to produce photons. Because of the reduced thickness of the chip a reasonable number of these photons can leave and be emitted as light. The LEDs are formed from GaAs (gallium arsenide), GaP (gallium phosphide), GaAsP (gallium arsenide phosphide), SiC (silicon carbide) and GaInN (gallium nitride and indium). The exact choice of the semiconductor determines the peak wavelength of the photons, the electro-optical conversion efficiency and thus the light intensity output. "(Full text at: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED)
The LEDs are set to revolutionize the field of lighting indoors?
It seems so judging from the premises: economic management, cold light, no noise or bulky ballast, long life, 100% PAR. They promise a 75% improvement in performance and cost savings cooling environment
A miracle? Maybe.
The first thing that leaps to the eye investigating on lighting to LED is the total lack of reliable material to draw from, as the monopoly of data and studies entrusted entirely to the producers themselves and therefore by definition be taken lightly.
You can draw some inference using what you have available, or the experience of farmers and technical bare and raw disseminated by manufacturers and distributors.
To begin a comparison and an objective evaluation of the first step is the classification of the LEDs based on size, power, light output and color (or wavelength of radiation).
The LEDs are on the market with sizes ranging from 3mm to 10mm: 10mm LEDs can provide a power of 0.8 to 1.2 watts and consist of about 8-10 LEDs, high power is naturally associated with a single LED and this will be more bright.
The LED lighting has widely used in civil and road, with LED efficiency by 20 lm / w to over 100 lm / w, they replace the traditional HPS offering greater durability and lower heating environment as well a stable performance over time.
For what concerns the growing number of proposals are on the market, but the most common features are these:
630nm red 40-60 lm / w% PAR50 use flowers and fruits
660nm red 30-45 lm / w% PAR100 use flowers and fruits
blue 455-465nm 20-40lm / w% using vegetative PAR100
with variable yield depending on the size of the LEDs themselves, (as happens with neon tubes: 30 lm / w for 15w tubes against 60 lm / w Tube 65W 120 cm long), frequency (a red 630 nm for example, has much higher efficiency compared with a red 660 nm), and quality equipment.
We would like to use in the field of cultivation, so it is with great interest that we welcome the note by which producers lamp, 90W can replace a 400W HPS.
What exactly can we expect?
Here are the numbers:
90W LED (80 red 10 blue 660nm 465nm) 1980 lumens with a PAR 100% = 1980 actual lumens
HPS 400w average efficiency 90-120 lm / w then 36-48000 lumens
We have seen other times what is meant when one speaks of the MLP, but in this case necessitates a summary.
The need to define the PAR was created to understand how much emitted light a lamp is used by the plant. This value explains why a high number of lumens not necessarily correspond to a high yield cultivation.
The PAR is the amount of radiation emitted in the frequency spectrum suitable for the plant and shall be eligible for the transpose, thus having a wavelength between 400 and 700nm.
However this is not sufficient to define the goodness of a light because the 400-700 range includes the wavelength of the green, which we know is absorbed in very low percentage, or almost anything from vegetables.
Then the same PAR 100, ie 100% of the radiation contained in the range 400-700, there are lamps with a spectrum lamps with a spectrum better and worse.
That is why now the popular fluorescent envirolite have actually made good: their high luminous efficiency is thus equal watt electric emit much radiation absorbed, with a dominant red or blue depending on who examines a model or 2700k from 6400K.
The red and blue LEDs have certainly PAR100%, concentrated between 460 and 665 nm and therefore correspond to absorption peaks of the plants, but the radiation values are low for this work best if combined with another type of light
or if used with great powers, precisely to 90-180 watts / sq.
Unfortunately almost all the data available have been issued by manufacturers, distributors and sellers, and never by a research institute accredited.
In the case of envirolite in place of data we met crowds of farmers, we can still consider a good sign of credibility and reliability in the case of LED lamps unfortunately still do not have it yet 'reliable studies of its' customer testimonials.
They say that LED lamps are expensive. What figures speak?
Consider the most suitable model for hobby use size and performance, available only with difficulty even in Italy, or the UFO.
This is a light compact design characteristic, with the best led.
In America shops specializing in indoor growing sales to $ 600 each, in Italy the average price is about $ 800.
In both cases the products manufactured in China, or more precisely from Shenzhen, a region that currently has earned the title of world capital of LED lighting: you can buy directly from producers certified lamps at very favorable prices, having time and will follow a shipment troubled by uncertain outcomes.
These prices are so high to be considered in light of "field tests", showing that the LEDs behave well for the vegetative stage, very bad for flowering as a crop damage amounting to one third that of using well-HPS 15 days more.
For those who primarily require support for the vegetative stage and winter waiting for the sun and take care of valuable crops completely indoors, without the aid of sunlight, could be a purchase to be considered carefully.
For the user to grips with the salad to eat for dinner or a few ornamental plants continues to be an overly expensive.
An alternative to single use is to combine T5 fluorescent lamps or HID (high intensity discarge), or the use of LEDs only the first stage and then switch to classic.
Some manufacturers to remedy this unsatisfactory behavior are studying lamps also emit white light LEDs in addition to blue and red, although it seems that for some fruits such as apples for perfect maturation are also important UV rays, not included in the PAR (photosintetically active radiaton).
Some American producers have put on the market other LED lamps under the name Pocyon and IT Smartlamp or you SMARTbite.
Again promise amazing results (even with white light spectrum), but unfortunately the only data are still those provided by the manufacturers (a Smartlamp you replace a 300 watt HPS to 600 watt with a total reactor consumes 670w, guaranteeing equal results if not better) and prices are really high.
Some say that the LEDs have a great future in lighting civil but for the crops were dead before birth because of advances in sulfur plasma, which provide very small with an average life and very high flows of 180 lm / w 100% PAR.
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- Lighting in indoor cultivation
- Guide to Indoor cultivation
- The reflectors in indoor growing
- Indoor crops: DIY or shop?
- Table guide to indoor growing
Tags: Growroom management , lighting , LED , products















June 6th, 2009 at 19:38
I think this article really superficial .... I hope that the author has time to conduct further research on LED technology because it has taken the trouble to write.
The LEDs are just born and we will see some beautiful ... good luck!
June 6th, 2009 at 19:51
I add only that the sulfur plasma lamps emit almost no infrared are essential for proper flowering. ... So light but with the peak at 520nm which is not much for our beloved plants that require peak as you know in other parts of the spectrum .... blue orange .. ... .. a lot of red and deep red to infrared.
Plants do not see it as us!
June 8th, 2009 at 16:17
New lamps are being studied for the agricultural sector (which is what they were born) with targeted characteristics. As for the running lamps and improvement will take time. Do you remember a few years ago, many growers used sodium vapor lamps with color temperature random, born for street lighting.
June 8th, 2009 at 16:20
ok, we understand that you think the LED technology is the only real worthy of trust in the near future. But if I could articulate your criticism of this article the whole would be more constructive.
Not only that, if you want to write an article that we publish, as long argued and supported by data. The contributions and discussions are always welcome.
June 9th, 2009 at 12:24
So ... what I think does not count much but better atricolerĂ² my information with data and not just words I'll have time.
It is important to understand that reaching simple conclusions like yours helps no one ... especially your readers.
The beauty is that you assume that future plasma lamps are better than at present but the same applies to sicuramante led and do not tell.
From trick that you notice that you feel the sulfur plasma technology the only true and trustworthy LEDs seem to have already killed you. ... But who told you .. maybe those who have used the wrong way and was disappointed ?
As I have said I will be Mr. nobody but this seems to be an informative site ... This is a big difference in my opinion.
The idea to better articulate your personal opinion also applies to you ... who else has confidence in you to take good information incorrect and misleading.
I will be happy to share this blog with my modest knowledge in terms of LED lighting not only feel that if there are pegiudizi background on a specific technology, but only simple misinformation that leads to wrong conclusions!
June 9th, 2009 at 17:38
Listen, we have an article a couple of years ago on the plasma, it is here that there are fanatics who are living the sulfur shirts ye ye.
This is a free site where several people write their opinions, based on data-often from producers and then to be taken lightly, and personal experiences.
I still find wrong with the classic UFO LED and I think costs too much, but look forward to the testimony of a friend who is using a LED panel.
As I said, all opinions are space, waiting for your data with you talk, I will be delighted to publish it.
July 26th, 2009 at 13:05
but the LED does fie oe, he classical agro hps? =
July 27th, 2009 at 16:36
Function works, but the cost is very high and time to amortize such purchases are long.
The accounts must be made from case to case: precious plants, hot areas or large may be good reasons to buy an LED lamp.
Personally I am not particularly favorable to design "UFO" and wait for large scale marketing of LED panels, also calls for a gradual lowering of prices.
September 20th, 2009 at 17:14
pity that in my opinion those wavelengths are not the most appropriate
September 21st, 2009 at 13:24
why do not you think the suit?
October 5th, 2009 at 10:32
I do many experiments, but from what I read in books are not the most appropriate
October 5th, 2009 at 16:00
I ache I would add to the question above.
matteo in more let me know if you think there are some "colors" of light that can be added to normal red and blue to obtain the beneficial effects on pints.
Enlighten
October 7th, 2009 at 20:35
Well, all the lamps for indoor growing have some weaknesses.
But it would be nice if you, Matthew, this further a bit.
October 27th, 2009 at 24:50
useful colors are blue 460nm, 610nm orange, red 630nm e 660nm but especially the dark red eye .... The lack of infrared (720nm) will not make 'Mauro plants as with hps ... so' if you want to design an LED light as I did you should absolutely use these colors. ... I also added a white hot so alone ... does everything grow and bloom!
Good luck and studied shame on you!
October 27th, 2009 at 13:52
I believe that you should avoid to restrict your reading to post on the LEDs, we have recently posted a very interesting article and well done on the light and plants, where among other things, alluded to the issue of green light (which, I agree is useless to plants).
Thanks for taking the time to come and make your reasons plotting some data.
as far as I'm concerned I remain convinced that the best lighting for plants where there is generally between 400 and 700 nm, with a greater proportion of red than the blue and infrared emission.
is also to say that the different species of plants have different needs, so it is often necessary to study ad hoc lighting.
I suggest reading this very complete and interesting post on lighting, prepared by the engineering department of Philips Lighting.
http://www.giardinaggioindoor.it/2007/06/15/luce-e-vita/
May 17th, 2010 at 08:16
I am sorry to contradict mondoled, I work in the field of gas discharge lighting and the LED
regarding the performance level of lumens (Part fdondamentale vital process in the plant) the LEDs will never Nos at a HPS can never give as many lumens HPS also a spectrum of an LED is bad, the LED light is a very bad light, dirty as they say, the proof you may have with a camera, a bright person with a hps and riprendetelo, then do the same with LEDs and review the video, the difference you will jump immediately to the eyes, LEDs are a limited technology departing for cultivation, they can never replace a HPS
June 3rd, 2010 at 10:38
Dear all,
I read the articles on lighting indoor and answers: Congratulations to all the skill, albeit with different perspectives. I would also like dlla your knowledge to ask for an opinion. Should I design and build a hotel in some environments a series of small indoor ponds (2-4 m. Each) with aquatic plants, surrounded by a few traditional indoor plant (Palm, Dracena, Ferns, Croton etc. ..). It would be wonderful to see the flowering lilies or iris or Caltha! The natural light is scarce and comes from the side windows, temperature and humidity medium-high. In addition, during the day should not be fired for reasons of light per day setting, but obviously the environment should receive accent lighting. Also thought to reverse this cycle by illuminating the plants at night, using latch systems or spot intensi.Mi wonder if and how this is feasible in light of your knowledge, or if I should abandon the idea to not mangle the plants ... Thanks 1000 response
June 3rd, 2010 at 13:31
Hello,
is technically feasible.
You can take the fluorescent or energy saving lamps (to address the problem of power, making it difficult to get rid of the cumbersome apparatus of lighting during the day, but you can minimize that through the simple ups and downs ).
But not all the plants you mention have the same needs, and especially lighting at night and keeping the light of day will fail to alternate bringing the plant to bloom.
24/24 The light also is a source of stress, many of the metabolic functions of plants occur only in the dark.
Finally, if the pond does not have a perfect ball and a good cleaning all this light will bring an exponential spread of algae.
The wiser choice is to study how a 'nice' to fix reflectors and lights (frankly unattractive) but hidden in a practical way (inside false removable hairpieces or structures).
June 3rd, 2010 at 15:10
Thank you. In fact I find many problems:
A) the specific lighting fixtures are not attractive to be left exposed. Also could use some technical equipment of simple design built (The ceiling is 2.5 meters) I do not think I would get the necessary amount of light on plants
B) having to bring the light at lower altitudes and near the plants, or energy saving fluorescent lamps, use of ups and downs but I must support the fixtures pleasant to see or fully integrated flush into the ceiling: there?
C) artificial lighting for plants is not pleasant, is strong and flattens the environment, which instead should be more subdued setting. Lighting at night would be the solution, but some day we would not be in the dark, because even obscuring the windows, some spotlight on plants and ponds will take, but not only green light, I read not be necessary to plants. We are indeed in the indoor environment of a commercial space where people traveling between 10 and 23 approximately.
Although the appropriate parts of water to clean them and take for granted, I see many difficulties and I am discouraging ...
June 7th, 2010 at 09:45
It is not easy indeed.
You can try to contact here:
http://www.solarialamps.it/index_1024.html
to find something more aesthetically appreciable. However, these solutions are mostly 'spot' or lighting single, for one plant and not for large environments with multiple plants.
Or you can think of using neon horticulture reflective ceiling (you can try a commercial product not counting those used in horticulture). Whereas you have no need for a crop may be sufficient despite the height of the ceiling.
You can overcome the light 'flat' placing spotlights that alter their perception for the visitors.
June 16th, 2010 at 21:07
.. I am interested to know (beyond the 'all)
the penetration of light produced by these LEDs. The beam of light and 'effective by many cm?? Greetings.
June 17th, 2010 at 13:25
I'd love to know.
In the sense that each model features LED qualitatively different and therefore it is very difficult to determine the penetration of light.
Also we have not yet reliable technical data, that is not advertising. As a generic term the LED lamps should ensure greater penetration of CFL, just to have a comparison.
If anyone has documented information about relevant personal experiences or we will be happy to hear.
July 7th, 2010 at 17:14
Hello, I thought to make me buy the lamp and LEDs in an electronics store, certainly the cost is less and can choose which and how many led to. The problem is that I can not find reliable info on how / where to put because the market for LEDs is large enough, you have any advice? And the problem of infrared LEDs can be mounted normal infrared case?
Thanks
July 8th, 2010 at 09:02
This is exactly the problem in the do-it-yourself construction of the lamps. Many types available, unclear features, difficult to find good advice.
Try to contact the author of this excellent blog:
http://www.actionmutant.net/coltivazione/piante-carnivore/led-per-coltivare-piante-bassi-consumi-ed-alta-efficienza/
Frankly, I advise you properly, if some expert LED changes around here will appreciate your contribution, thanks!